{"id":426,"date":"2007-07-25T16:00:40","date_gmt":"2007-07-26T00:00:40","guid":{"rendered":"http:\/\/www.rudyrucker.com\/blog\/2007\/07\/25\/transfinite-minds\/"},"modified":"2007-07-25T16:27:19","modified_gmt":"2007-07-26T00:27:19","slug":"transfinite-minds","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/www.rudyrucker.com\/blog\/2007\/07\/25\/transfinite-minds\/","title":{"rendered":"Transfinite Minds"},"content":{"rendered":"

Good news: the first half of my novel Hylozoic <\/em>is done, and so, by extension, my projected trilogy is half done as well: Postsingular<\/a>, Hylozoic, Transfinite.<\/em><\/p>\n

Bad news: I\u2019m quite vague about what happens in the second half.<\/p>\n

I do have what looks <\/em>like an outline for the second half of Hylozoic<\/em>, but it\u2019s largely gauze and mist. So I\u2019ll be redoing the outline for a few days now.<\/p>\n

And, while I\u2019m in planning mode, it would be great to get more ideas about that third novel, Transfinite<\/em>.<\/p>\n

<\/p>\n

Today I rode up onto St. Joseph\u2019s Hill in Los Gatos with my trusty Pilot P-700 black fine gel pen and with my outline printed on a few pages of paper folded in four in my back pocket\u2014my favorite form of portable word processing set-up. I marked it up. My handwriting has gotten so free (elderly?) that later I often need to use a magnifying glass to figure out what I wrote.<\/p>\n

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I need a name for the transfinite beings such as the magic harp. I was calling them \u201cinfinites,\u201d\u009d though \u201ctransfinites\u201d\u009d would be better. \u201cGods\u201d\u009d has too much baggage. Maybe \u201csnakes\u201d\u009d or \u201csnaaakes,\u201d\u009d with the iterated \u201ca\u201d\u009d suggesting their (extreme) length. Oh, I know, how about \u201cimmortals.\u201d\u009d Yeah, that seems to work, at least for now.<\/p>\n

<\/p>\n

Some tough questions:<\/p>\n

Q: What is a rune? What is a runemaster?<\/em><\/p>\n

A: A rune is like a magic spell that directly affects matter. In Hylozoic <\/em>at present I describe a rune is combination of a telepathic contact, a telekinetic push, and a higher-dimensional flip. And when you lay a rune on something you are \u201ccasting\u201d\u009d it. And if you can cast runes, you\u2019re a runemaster.<\/p>\n

I\u2019ve described three kinds of runes.<\/p>\n

* The summoning rune<\/em>, which linked Jayjay via a subdimensional wormhole to a mind in a distant galaxy.<\/p>\n

* The ioneer runes <\/em>which convert the information in a distant alien\u2019s body into a behavior in a group of Earthly atoms, causing the atoms to emit matter waves that produce a matter-hologram copy of the alien.<\/p>\n

* The atomic reset rune <\/em>which clears the ioneer runes out of the enslaved atoms.<\/p>\n

For story purposes, I have it set up so that only Jayjay, of all the people on Earth, can cast runes. He has a dream where the magic harp makes him a runemaster.<\/p>\n

Perhaps a rune has something to do with higher infinities. A self-referential loop. But why can only Jayjay cast runes? He\u2019s not really the smartest guy in the world. Maybe it has to do with his (so far latent) painting talent? <\/p>\n

<\/p>\n

Q: When and where is the magic harp located when Jayjay sees her in his dream?<\/em>.<\/p>\n

A: I\u2019d like to just say the harp is dreaming too, and this appearance emerges from the massed moments of her whole life. Except for an immortal like the magic harp, this visionary state is not like dreaming, its like the normal state, and the part where they are embedded in our world is more like the dream.<\/p>\n

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Q: Why did magic harp make Jayjay a runemaster?<\/em><\/p>\n

A: Perhaps the magic harp is a future version of my character Thuy Nguyen. Maybe in Transfinite<\/em>, Thuy goes through an apotheosis and becomes an immortal, in particular, she becomes the magic harp. And then goes back to do what she needs to do. And that\u2019s the end of the trilogy; the snake of history bites its own tail.<\/p>\n

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Q: Why does the magic harp forget the Lost Chord on her journey from the present-day Lobrane to the Fifteenth Century of the Hibrane?<\/em><\/p>\n

A: The magic harp is a higher mind that lives in every moment of her Earthly manifestation, yes. But this mind is subject to time flow constraints when embedded in the physical world. If I raise my consciousness to be conscious of my entire lifeworm at each instant of my life, it\u2019s still true that today I don’t know what I\u2019ll do tomorrow. Even though I will in another sense feel the \u201csame\u201d\u009d tomorrow, like the same lifeworm.<\/p>\n

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Q: Where do the immortals live?<\/em><\/p>\n

A: I will call it Walhalla for now, echoing the Valhalla of Wagnerian myth. I don\u2019t want Walhalla to be pie in the sky, or infinite dimensional Hilbert space. I\u2019d like it to be our actual world, regarded in a different way. We are in Walhalla all the time.<\/p>\n

So I\u2019m saying the immortals are physically in our world, but they make the most of what\u2019s available and manage to have infinite minds.<\/p>\n

It\u2019s possible that a infinite immortal mind is connected to more than one finite body. In this case, the bodies are like pearls upon an endless golden strand. Two people might separately have infinite souls, and then choose to combine the souls into one; the single soul living in two bodies. A cosmic marriage.<\/p>\n

In principle all the silps in an alef-null-sized universe could be bodies of one and the same infinite mind.<\/p>\n

<\/p>\n

Q: Can I see Walhalla?<\/em><\/p>\n

A: When you dream you are in Walhalla. Time sequence constraints can break down here; you can dream the past and the future. There\u2019s not a problem with a yes-and-no temporal paradox because when you wake up and all quantum states are collapsed, then you aren\u2019t sure what happened in the dream, or you don\u2019t really believe it.<\/p>\n

<\/p>\n

Q: How is our universe infinite?<\/em><\/p>\n

A: I can think of three senses:<\/p>\n

(a) Upward infinity. <\/em>Infinite spatial extent, with infinitely many stars, and infinitely many degrees of higher level structures, that is, ultra-k-clusters of galaxies for every number k. <\/p>\n

(b) Downward infinity. <\/em>Infinitely divisible matter. The Planck barrier is simply an illusion. By renormalizing, we can in fact flip our view of things, and see the \u201cbig\u201d\u009d stuff as being below the Planck scale and us as being the \u201csmall\u201d\u009d stuff. A flip-flop. The endlessly many ultra-k-clusters below the Planck scale would then represent lower and lower levels of matter.<\/p>\n

(c) Infinite dimensionality. <\/em>There may be endlessly many dimensions.<\/p>\n

<\/p>\n

Q: How big is the infinity of our universe?<\/em><\/p>\n

A: In the previous answer I was coy about the range of k and the meaning of \u201cinfinity\u201d\u009d. But if I say our physical world is infinite, which level of infinity do I mean? As a set theorist I know of lots of options. Here are four that come to mind:<\/p>\n

(i) Alef-null<\/b>, the smallest infinite number, the cardinality of the set of natural numbers.<\/p>\n

(ii) c, the power of the continuum, that is, the cardinality of the set of real numbers. Note that the size of c is at least as big as alef-one<\/b>, which is the first infinity after alef-null<\/b>. So far as we know, c may be very high up in the alef hierarchy, indeed it could even be as big as \u00e2\u201e\u00a6<\/b>. But some present-day set theorists like Hugh Woodin feel c is alef-two<\/b>. As I recall, in White Light, <\/em>I espoused this belief, which was also advocated by Kurt G\u00f6del.<\/p>\n

(iii) \u00e2\u201e\u00a6<\/b>, the class of all ordinals, which Georg Cantor calls Absolute Infinity.<\/p>\n

(iv) The size \u00ce\u00b7\u00e2\u201e\u00a6 <\/b>of the Absolute Continuum, where I use the terminology of Felix Hausdorff <\/a>. This would be at least as big as \u00e2\u201e\u00a6<\/b>. I discuss the Absolute Continuum in my book, Mind Tools, it is a class of points in which you can find another point between any two sets of points. An Absolute Continuum is a proper class which contains embedded into it every possible set-sized order type. It\u2019s moot whether or not you can well-order the Absolute Continuum as a whole, so it\u2019s not necessarily true that it can be mapped one-to-one onto \u00e2\u201e\u00a6.<\/b><\/p>\n

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Q: So which infinity is the size of our space?<\/em><\/p>\n

A: A cautious idea is to settle for alef-null stars, alef-null levels, alef-null divisibility, and alef-null dimensions. In this case, however, the infinite overminds are not really transfinite; they have size alef-null. If they like, they can arrange themselves into countable transfinite order types such as \u00cf\u2030 + \u00cf\u2030 <\/b>and get a weak kind of transfinitism, but even so, it would be questionable in this case whether I could justify calling the third novel Transfinite <\/em>as I would like to.<\/p>\n

Or I can rush to the higher extremes and say that I\u2019m after Absolute Infinity, or \u00e2\u201e\u00a6<\/b>; after all, this is SF, why hold back. In White Light<\/em>, my character went out to \u00e2\u201e\u00a6<\/b>.<\/p>\n

Perhaps this time around I\u2019ll require even more. I\u2019d like the higher infinities to be immanent, embedded in our immediate surroundings, in my finger tips. And I can do this by saying that our physical space is Absolutely Continuous, at least in the small, that is, in terms of divisibility.<\/p>\n

Given that I would prefer a symmetry between large and small, this also entails that the physical world is Absolutely Infinite, and that it extends past alef-null, alef-one, and so on, star upon star. A principle of plenitude is in operation here.<\/p>\n

The following issue comes up in this case. If I say our space is a proper class, then I have to wonder if the immortals proper classes or merely transfinite sets? I suppose I\u2019d have them be merely transfinite sets, so that they, like us, still have higher levels to aspire to. Alef-null\u2019s ceiling is alef-two\u2019s floor…<\/p>\n

And we could then have a higher Divine which is a proper class. This would lie over and above the transfinite immortals; akin to Meister Eckhart\u2019s Godhead beyond God.<\/p>\n

<\/p>\n

Q: How do the two branes of Postsingular fit in?<\/em><\/p>\n

A: I have set it up so that reality has two (and only two) parallel branes: the Lobrane and the Hibrane. Perhaps the immortals are transfinite minds based upon the Lobrane, and the less pleasant subbies are minds based upon the Hibrane. Each brane can be an Absolute Continuum.<\/p>\n

The paired branes are the underlying dyad that drives creation. Yin and yang.<\/p>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"

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