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		<title>By: John Barnes</title>
		<link>http://www.rudyrucker.com/blog/2008/12/31/sf-ufo-novel/comment-page-1/#comment-22024</link>
		<dc:creator>John Barnes</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 20 Jun 2010 19:43:38 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Proudly contributing to the goofiness, my 2004 novel GAUDEAMUS fits nearly all of your criteria; I&#039;d add that the UFO story has a close cousin in folklore:  the tall tale of encounters with seldom-seen people or beings; and a close cousin in the early history of the novel of the fantastic: the reported encounter (where the narrator didn&#039;t see it him/herself but hears about it from another narrator s/he doesn&#039;t necessarily trust, e.g. Dr. Jekyll and Mr. Hyde, where the narrators go as much as 7 deep; A Princess of Mars; &quot;For a Foggy Night.&quot;)

And yes, it&#039;s time to stop attaching &quot;punk&quot; to everything in literature, before fiction itself is renamed stuffpunk.  

GAUDEAMUS is also suffering a very odd fate for which I so far have no explanation; after some years of being functionally out of print, there is possibly a paperback coming out on September 1 (according to Locus and Amazon) and yet nobody at Tor has returned phone calls and emails asking about it from either me or my agent.  This would be perfectly consistent with the conspiracy in the book.  Perhaps there are more narrators in the chain than we dream of.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Proudly contributing to the goofiness, my 2004 novel GAUDEAMUS fits nearly all of your criteria; I&#8217;d add that the UFO story has a close cousin in folklore:  the tall tale of encounters with seldom-seen people or beings; and a close cousin in the early history of the novel of the fantastic: the reported encounter (where the narrator didn&#8217;t see it him/herself but hears about it from another narrator s/he doesn&#8217;t necessarily trust, e.g. Dr. Jekyll and Mr. Hyde, where the narrators go as much as 7 deep; A Princess of Mars; &#8220;For a Foggy Night.&#8221;)</p>
<p>And yes, it&#8217;s time to stop attaching &#8220;punk&#8221; to everything in literature, before fiction itself is renamed stuffpunk.  </p>
<p>GAUDEAMUS is also suffering a very odd fate for which I so far have no explanation; after some years of being functionally out of print, there is possibly a paperback coming out on September 1 (according to Locus and Amazon) and yet nobody at Tor has returned phone calls and emails asking about it from either me or my agent.  This would be perfectly consistent with the conspiracy in the book.  Perhaps there are more narrators in the chain than we dream of.</p>
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		<title>By: Larry Holcombe</title>
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		<dc:creator>Larry Holcombe</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 09 Aug 2009 20:58:14 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I have a published thriller, The Great River Disclosure, that uses the UFO/ET government cover-up to drive the plot. It&#039;s pretty mainstream as it stays within the legitimate research of the noted ufologists. It&#039;s available through Amazon.com or Barnesandnoble.com if interested.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I have a published thriller, The Great River Disclosure, that uses the UFO/ET government cover-up to drive the plot. It&#8217;s pretty mainstream as it stays within the legitimate research of the noted ufologists. It&#8217;s available through Amazon.com or Barnesandnoble.com if interested.</p>
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		<title>By: Kelson</title>
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		<dc:creator>Kelson</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 08 Jan 2009 04:04:23 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Instead of YouFoePunk, why not Saucer-Salient?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Instead of YouFoePunk, why not Saucer-Salient?</p>
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		<title>By: Mac Tonnies</title>
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		<dc:creator>Mac Tonnies</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 04 Jan 2009 00:16:03 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>For more on aliens and parallel worlds, search my blog for &lt;a target=&quot;_blank&quot; href=&quot;http://posthumanblues.blogspot.com/search?q=lam&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;Lam&lt;/a&gt;.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>For more on aliens and parallel worlds, search my blog for <a target="_blank" href="http://posthumanblues.blogspot.com/search?q=lam" rel="nofollow">Lam</a>.</p>
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		<title>By: joypeg</title>
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		<dc:creator>joypeg</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 02 Jan 2009 17:50:32 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>RR said:
&quot;As a practical matter, I shoot photos nearly every day, and I Photoshop the best ones and format them to be 600 pixels wide to fit in the blog. I keep a list of the photos that are “on deck,” and when I write a blog entry, I stick in a photo every couple of paragraphs. This lets me show off my photos, and it breaks up the blog—it’s dull to see honking big blocks of text.&quot;

Thank you for all the cool pics - I don&#039;t know what it is about your blog, but I always come back to it because of the photos. The image that started it all, was of a bright yellow koi from Japan. It still makes me smile.

Happy New Year</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>RR said:<br />
&#8220;As a practical matter, I shoot photos nearly every day, and I Photoshop the best ones and format them to be 600 pixels wide to fit in the blog. I keep a list of the photos that are “on deck,” and when I write a blog entry, I stick in a photo every couple of paragraphs. This lets me show off my photos, and it breaks up the blog—it’s dull to see honking big blocks of text.&#8221;</p>
<p>Thank you for all the cool pics &#8211; I don&#8217;t know what it is about your blog, but I always come back to it because of the photos. The image that started it all, was of a bright yellow koi from Japan. It still makes me smile.</p>
<p>Happy New Year</p>
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		<title>By: Daniel Brenton</title>
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		<dc:creator>Daniel Brenton</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 01 Jan 2009 22:22:21 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;em&gt;Mr. Rucker said ...&lt;/em&gt;

&lt;blockquote&gt;I gather that Majestic novelizes the UFO conspiracy theories about government coverups. I dislike politics and the government, and I think it’s a false move to suppose that aliens would get involved in that boring aspect of human culture. Like, why not fashion, rock and roll, science, or the movies?&lt;/blockquote&gt;

Yes, it does talk about the &quot;conspiracy of secrecy,&quot; but it depicts aliens that are so far above being bothered by our politics that none of what you were suspecting in that regard comes into play.  I would recommend that, should you plan to seriously go into writing the SF/UFO novel, that you read it, if for no other reason you know &quot;what went before.&quot;

Sorry to hear about your pirate incident...

No, &lt;em&gt;of course&lt;/em&gt; I&#039;m not familiar with your work.  Why would you think I&#039;d be blithering like this?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><em>Mr. Rucker said &#8230;</em></p>
<blockquote><p>I gather that Majestic novelizes the UFO conspiracy theories about government coverups. I dislike politics and the government, and I think it’s a false move to suppose that aliens would get involved in that boring aspect of human culture. Like, why not fashion, rock and roll, science, or the movies?</p></blockquote>
<p>Yes, it does talk about the &#8220;conspiracy of secrecy,&#8221; but it depicts aliens that are so far above being bothered by our politics that none of what you were suspecting in that regard comes into play.  I would recommend that, should you plan to seriously go into writing the SF/UFO novel, that you read it, if for no other reason you know &#8220;what went before.&#8221;</p>
<p>Sorry to hear about your pirate incident&#8230;</p>
<p>No, <em>of course</em> I&#8217;m not familiar with your work.  Why would you think I&#8217;d be blithering like this?</p>
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		<title>By: Rudy</title>
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		<dc:creator>Rudy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 01 Jan 2009 17:20:34 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Daniel, I never read Whitley Streiber&#039;s &lt;em&gt;Majestic&lt;/em&gt;, although I read part of &lt;em&gt;Communion&lt;/em&gt;, before throwing it aside in disgust at the humorless, earnest, self-pitying tone, and his complete lack of irony or surpise at the butt-probe.

I gather that &lt;em&gt;Majestic &lt;/em&gt;novelizes the UFO conspiracy theories about government coverups.  I dislike politics and the government, and I think it&#039;s a false move to suppose that aliens would get involved in that boring aspect of human culture.  Like, why not fashion, rock and roll, science, or the movies?

To me, politics and ware are the least interesting things that humans do. Why would aliens have to &quot;go through channels&quot; in order to approach people?  In my opinion, bringing in the military when talking about aliens shows a complete failure of the imagination.

Re. your question about how the pictures fit with the text on my blog, I can give two answers.

As a practical matter, I shoot photos nearly every day, and I Photoshop the best ones and format them to be 600 pixels wide to fit in the blog.  I keep a list of the photos that are &quot;on deck,&quot; and when I write a blog entry, I stick in a photo every couple of paragraphs.  This lets me show off my photos, and it breaks up the blog---it&#039;s dull to see honking big blocks of text.

As an artistic matter, I choose the order of the photos so that there is nearly always some reverberant connection between an image and the text nearby.  I think of the images as subconscious commentary on the text, catching a taste of the irrelevant-but-spot-on images that pass through one&#039;s mind as one reads something.  In the case of this SF UFO post, I was in fact thinking of the images as being how the saucerians might think about what I&#039;ve written.

Oh, and that&#039;s not just &quot;a pirate,&quot; that&#039;s an action doll of Johnny Depp playing Captain Jack Sparrow!  During my photo shoot, the doll was briefly animated by an alien mind and was walking around on its own.  It made several lewd requests, which I declined.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Daniel, I never read Whitley Streiber&#8217;s <em>Majestic</em>, although I read part of <em>Communion</em>, before throwing it aside in disgust at the humorless, earnest, self-pitying tone, and his complete lack of irony or surpise at the butt-probe.</p>
<p>I gather that <em>Majestic </em>novelizes the UFO conspiracy theories about government coverups.  I dislike politics and the government, and I think it&#8217;s a false move to suppose that aliens would get involved in that boring aspect of human culture.  Like, why not fashion, rock and roll, science, or the movies?</p>
<p>To me, politics and ware are the least interesting things that humans do. Why would aliens have to &#8220;go through channels&#8221; in order to approach people?  In my opinion, bringing in the military when talking about aliens shows a complete failure of the imagination.</p>
<p>Re. your question about how the pictures fit with the text on my blog, I can give two answers.</p>
<p>As a practical matter, I shoot photos nearly every day, and I Photoshop the best ones and format them to be 600 pixels wide to fit in the blog.  I keep a list of the photos that are &#8220;on deck,&#8221; and when I write a blog entry, I stick in a photo every couple of paragraphs.  This lets me show off my photos, and it breaks up the blog&#8212;it&#8217;s dull to see honking big blocks of text.</p>
<p>As an artistic matter, I choose the order of the photos so that there is nearly always some reverberant connection between an image and the text nearby.  I think of the images as subconscious commentary on the text, catching a taste of the irrelevant-but-spot-on images that pass through one&#8217;s mind as one reads something.  In the case of this SF UFO post, I was in fact thinking of the images as being how the saucerians might think about what I&#8217;ve written.</p>
<p>Oh, and that&#8217;s not just &#8220;a pirate,&#8221; that&#8217;s an action doll of Johnny Depp playing Captain Jack Sparrow!  During my photo shoot, the doll was briefly animated by an alien mind and was walking around on its own.  It made several lewd requests, which I declined.</p>
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		<title>By: Alex</title>
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		<dc:creator>Alex</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 01 Jan 2009 17:07:31 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Saucer Wisdom is one of your very best books. I can&#039;t see anyone doing a better UFO novel than that. It&#039;s packed with great ideas and the humor of the false document style novel is brilliant.

UFOs do work well in comedy SF movie, such as Men In Black, Mars Attacks and Galaxy Quest.

Maybe Saucer Wisdom could make a great movie?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Saucer Wisdom is one of your very best books. I can&#8217;t see anyone doing a better UFO novel than that. It&#8217;s packed with great ideas and the humor of the false document style novel is brilliant.</p>
<p>UFOs do work well in comedy SF movie, such as Men In Black, Mars Attacks and Galaxy Quest.</p>
<p>Maybe Saucer Wisdom could make a great movie?</p>
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		<title>By: Daniel Brenton</title>
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		<dc:creator>Daniel Brenton</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 01 Jan 2009 08:59:23 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Rudy --

Enjoyed this exposition.  Have toyed with the idea of the &quot;Great American UFO Novel,&quot; but I think Whitley beat me to it with &lt;em&gt;Majestic.&lt;/em&gt;

I must confess I don&#039;t quite get what a seashell on a chain-link fence, a pirate, and a metal tower have to do with UFO SF.  Are you telling us that we&#039;ve already been taken over?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Rudy &#8211;</p>
<p>Enjoyed this exposition.  Have toyed with the idea of the &#8220;Great American UFO Novel,&#8221; but I think Whitley beat me to it with <em>Majestic.</em></p>
<p>I must confess I don&#8217;t quite get what a seashell on a chain-link fence, a pirate, and a metal tower have to do with UFO SF.  Are you telling us that we&#8217;ve already been taken over?</p>
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		<title>By: Jon</title>
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		<dc:creator>Jon</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 01 Jan 2009 03:54:08 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I didn&#039;t know there was going to be a discussion of Ken MacLeod, but &quot;Learning The World&quot; is about a society that detects UFO&#039;s directed by humans. Fun Book.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I didn&#8217;t know there was going to be a discussion of Ken MacLeod, but &#8220;Learning The World&#8221; is about a society that detects UFO&#8217;s directed by humans. Fun Book.</p>
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