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		<title>By: futons critic phil</title>
		<link>http://www.rudyrucker.com/blog/2008/11/17/early-days-of-cyberpunk/comment-page-1/#comment-18520</link>
		<dc:creator>futons critic phil</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 19 Jan 2009 05:45:48 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I find it very odd that the panel wasn&#039;t really even given much of an opportunity especially after the moderator who wasn&#039;t really supposed to be the moderator took charge of the event. Lew Shiner should have spoken up as it sounded like it was panel to moderate. Amazing how some people just don&#039;t get it. Very sad. Thanks for posting this. It was an interesting read into the early days of cyberpunk.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I find it very odd that the panel wasn&#8217;t really even given much of an opportunity especially after the moderator who wasn&#8217;t really supposed to be the moderator took charge of the event. Lew Shiner should have spoken up as it sounded like it was panel to moderate. Amazing how some people just don&#8217;t get it. Very sad. Thanks for posting this. It was an interesting read into the early days of cyberpunk.</p>
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		<title>By: rendertank</title>
		<link>http://www.rudyrucker.com/blog/2008/11/17/early-days-of-cyberpunk/comment-page-1/#comment-18387</link>
		<dc:creator>rendertank</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 05 Jan 2009 09:41:22 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Rudy, you bring a sense of wonder and optimism to the cyberpunk genre.
Your work is always on the nightstand, like a bible.
Thank you Mr. Rucker.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Rudy, you bring a sense of wonder and optimism to the cyberpunk genre.<br />
Your work is always on the nightstand, like a bible.<br />
Thank you Mr. Rucker.</p>
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		<title>By: John Lennon's Foster Child</title>
		<link>http://www.rudyrucker.com/blog/2008/11/17/early-days-of-cyberpunk/comment-page-1/#comment-18216</link>
		<dc:creator>John Lennon's Foster Child</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 20 Dec 2008 05:39:44 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[enters 1975 bird data into wikipedia, wonders if pirated version was edited]</description>
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		<title>By: John Lennon's Foster Child</title>
		<link>http://www.rudyrucker.com/blog/2008/11/17/early-days-of-cyberpunk/comment-page-1/#comment-18215</link>
		<dc:creator>John Lennon's Foster Child</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 20 Dec 2008 05:37:01 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I&#039;ve never seen anything written about the early XEROX color printer/copier days.  And I just rediscovered my pirate version of the 1975 BIRDS OF THE WORLD book, an animal conservation group book I had to wait 2 years for, and was stolen, and was replaced by a xerox pirate version made in Mexico.  How about nerds quest to protect or maintain their history of a particular bird species&#039; since in the mid 70&#039;s we were ALL assigned a bird in school as a year long project here in California.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;ve never seen anything written about the early XEROX color printer/copier days.  And I just rediscovered my pirate version of the 1975 BIRDS OF THE WORLD book, an animal conservation group book I had to wait 2 years for, and was stolen, and was replaced by a xerox pirate version made in Mexico.  How about nerds quest to protect or maintain their history of a particular bird species&#8217; since in the mid 70&#8242;s we were ALL assigned a bird in school as a year long project here in California.</p>
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		<title>By: Pat Cadigan</title>
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		<dc:creator>Pat Cadigan</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 27 Nov 2008 11:44:48 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I remember that experience vividly.
      
      You know the worst part about that panel? Lew Shiner was supposed to have been the moderator. He had been listed as the moderator but when that other guy got there--and you know, I can&#039;t remember his name now, either--he insisted that he was the moderator. Lew shrugged and said OK. Later on, I asked Lew why he hadn&#039;t pressed the issue of who was moderating; Lew told me he hadn&#039;t wanted to create bad feeling at the outset.
      
      Oy.
      
      I had come prepared to talk about all things cyber--I was writing stories that would eventually mutate into Mindplayers, Synners, and Fools and I was eager to find out what everybody else was doing. 
      
      Oy.
      
      But you know, I also remember that before all the panelists had even made their opening statements, a certain big name writer in the audience interrupted and said something to the effect that we weren&#039;t really saying much of consequence, we were just sitting up there &quot;telling everyone how great you are&quot; (unquote). But the mike hadn&#039;t gotten even to me yet--I hadn&#039;t had a chance to tell everyone how great I was and Mr. Big Name hadn&#039;t even noticed! I felt so insulted!
      
      :)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I remember that experience vividly.</p>
<p>      You know the worst part about that panel? Lew Shiner was supposed to have been the moderator. He had been listed as the moderator but when that other guy got there&#8211;and you know, I can&#8217;t remember his name now, either&#8211;he insisted that he was the moderator. Lew shrugged and said OK. Later on, I asked Lew why he hadn&#8217;t pressed the issue of who was moderating; Lew told me he hadn&#8217;t wanted to create bad feeling at the outset.</p>
<p>      Oy.</p>
<p>      I had come prepared to talk about all things cyber&#8211;I was writing stories that would eventually mutate into Mindplayers, Synners, and Fools and I was eager to find out what everybody else was doing. </p>
<p>      Oy.</p>
<p>      But you know, I also remember that before all the panelists had even made their opening statements, a certain big name writer in the audience interrupted and said something to the effect that we weren&#8217;t really saying much of consequence, we were just sitting up there &#8220;telling everyone how great you are&#8221; (unquote). But the mike hadn&#8217;t gotten even to me yet&#8211;I hadn&#8217;t had a chance to tell everyone how great I was and Mr. Big Name hadn&#8217;t even noticed! I felt so insulted!</p>
<p>      <img src='http://www.rudyrucker.com/blog/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
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		<title>By: X</title>
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		<dc:creator>X</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 22 Nov 2008 17:18:08 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Wow, 25 years back in time. Cyberpunk and its declinations or spin-off (transrealism, ribofunk, also steampunk) have been to my eyes the bolt over the SF landscape. I started reading you all, with the physiological delay imposed by Italian publishers. And now that everything has come to an end (or simply has changed), reading about those early days is like hearing the cyberspace lengends from the voices of Gibson&#039;s Gentleman Loser&#039;s customers.

Thank you for everything,
X</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Wow, 25 years back in time. Cyberpunk and its declinations or spin-off (transrealism, ribofunk, also steampunk) have been to my eyes the bolt over the SF landscape. I started reading you all, with the physiological delay imposed by Italian publishers. And now that everything has come to an end (or simply has changed), reading about those early days is like hearing the cyberspace lengends from the voices of Gibson&#8217;s Gentleman Loser&#8217;s customers.</p>
<p>Thank you for everything,<br />
X</p>
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		<title>By: The Necromancer</title>
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		<dc:creator>The Necromancer</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 21 Nov 2008 06:51:34 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Phenomenal. I inhaled sci-fi when young (from Golden Age to New Wave), but the mind-shifting influence you guys had on me was seminal. &lt;i&gt;Mirrorshades&lt;/i&gt; was a bit of pure pulp gold by my reckoning. I&#039;m a historian of medicine and science now, but still daydream about writing fiction for a living...Alas...

Judging by this excerpt, this memoir is going to be totally awesome. Great stuff.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Phenomenal. I inhaled sci-fi when young (from Golden Age to New Wave), but the mind-shifting influence you guys had on me was seminal. <i>Mirrorshades</i> was a bit of pure pulp gold by my reckoning. I&#8217;m a historian of medicine and science now, but still daydream about writing fiction for a living&#8230;Alas&#8230;</p>
<p>Judging by this excerpt, this memoir is going to be totally awesome. Great stuff.</p>
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		<title>By: Ocia</title>
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		<dc:creator>Ocia</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 20 Nov 2008 02:40:36 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I was born in 1983, now a mere 25 years old and seeing that I missed out on the beginning of the cyber-punk wave I am catching up here in the 00&#039;s.  I ending up reading Moldies and Meatbops in 2001 and between it&#039;s hard-backed cover it alone changed the genre of books that I read and thought were interesting.  Thanks-a-heap!  Also, it changed a few of my friends too.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I was born in 1983, now a mere 25 years old and seeing that I missed out on the beginning of the cyber-punk wave I am catching up here in the 00&#8242;s.  I ending up reading Moldies and Meatbops in 2001 and between it&#8217;s hard-backed cover it alone changed the genre of books that I read and thought were interesting.  Thanks-a-heap!  Also, it changed a few of my friends too.</p>
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		<title>By: Steve H</title>
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		<dc:creator>Steve H</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 19 Nov 2008 21:43:12 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Gamma - Siriusly don&#039;t worry unless there&#039;s blood in yr Orion - probably the other 23 are brutish - general body system was demoted to colonel over piracy issues. 

Charlie, in &#039;83 I was running a food/supply warehouse, my role being to coax a 386 running dBaseII into keeping track of the stock, and had just realized I&#039;d impregnated my wife, thus launching us into the surreal/sfnal world of raising an autistic child. By the Nineties I&#039;d jumped over to the Uni Library, which let me play with many computers and an actual network. I can&#039;t decide whether art imitates life, life imitates art, or art and life both irritate me.
Rudy, stuff like that panel bewilders me. Why be jealous of a new thing being born? A rising tide lifts all boats. There was a lot of angst about punk music, too, and no one seemed to realize that the people buying it were new fans. In the end it just meant more shows and more record sales and more muscle for the genre.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Gamma &#8211; Siriusly don&#8217;t worry unless there&#8217;s blood in yr Orion &#8211; probably the other 23 are brutish &#8211; general body system was demoted to colonel over piracy issues. </p>
<p>Charlie, in &#8217;83 I was running a food/supply warehouse, my role being to coax a 386 running dBaseII into keeping track of the stock, and had just realized I&#8217;d impregnated my wife, thus launching us into the surreal/sfnal world of raising an autistic child. By the Nineties I&#8217;d jumped over to the Uni Library, which let me play with many computers and an actual network. I can&#8217;t decide whether art imitates life, life imitates art, or art and life both irritate me.<br />
Rudy, stuff like that panel bewilders me. Why be jealous of a new thing being born? A rising tide lifts all boats. There was a lot of angst about punk music, too, and no one seemed to realize that the people buying it were new fans. In the end it just meant more shows and more record sales and more muscle for the genre.</p>
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		<title>By: Alex</title>
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		<dc:creator>Alex</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 19 Nov 2008 13:32:40 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The Sterling and Gibson book &quot;The Difference Engine&quot; is excellent! I think it&#039;s the best that either of them has written.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The Sterling and Gibson book &#8220;The Difference Engine&#8221; is excellent! I think it&#8217;s the best that either of them has written.</p>
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