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		<title>By: geebert</title>
		<link>http://www.rudyrucker.com/blog/2008/09/04/instead-of-watching-the-convention/#comment-16427</link>
		<dc:creator>geebert</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 16 Sep 2008 02:35:44 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>great photos and art, per usual! no matter how you do it, you're making your memoir as you life naturally. keep on keepin on!</description>
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		<title>By: womansvoice</title>
		<link>http://www.rudyrucker.com/blog/2008/09/04/instead-of-watching-the-convention/#comment-16330</link>
		<dc:creator>womansvoice</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 08 Sep 2008 20:31:18 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>R

I hope you'll forgive me for a third comment in your public community forum but I want to say something about this part of your answer:

"Normally I like to stay away from partisan politics on my blog—as it provokes discussions that are somewhat repetitive..."

When I read that, my mind said "Interesting... one can see discussions with no (easy?) resolution as repetitious patterns (rounded, returning, female image) instead of contests (opposing ideations, linear, male image). Could they be definitive patterns within the wider fabric of social interactions, and could there be some mathematical expression that defines the pattern (repeating sets, based on equations, are patterns) of discussions that consistently lead nowhere?

My primitive instinct says there is some connection though I lack the scientific training to back my hunch.. And maybe I'm just a bag of hot air, I dunno!

It's just that my mind made a connection here - because I connect the idea of repetitive patterns with sets etc... um, and you said it and I link the two ideas in my mind because of that... perhaps with two things that have no connection point at all. 

I hope I'm not wasting time in this forum by asking this q.
It just seems like a fun q to ask, that's all.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>R</p>
<p>I hope you&#8217;ll forgive me for a third comment in your public community forum but I want to say something about this part of your answer:</p>
<p>&#8220;Normally I like to stay away from partisan politics on my blog—as it provokes discussions that are somewhat repetitive&#8230;&#8221;</p>
<p>When I read that, my mind said &#8220;Interesting&#8230; one can see discussions with no (easy?) resolution as repetitious patterns (rounded, returning, female image) instead of contests (opposing ideations, linear, male image). Could they be definitive patterns within the wider fabric of social interactions, and could there be some mathematical expression that defines the pattern (repeating sets, based on equations, are patterns) of discussions that consistently lead nowhere?</p>
<p>My primitive instinct says there is some connection though I lack the scientific training to back my hunch.. And maybe I&#8217;m just a bag of hot air, I dunno!</p>
<p>It&#8217;s just that my mind made a connection here - because I connect the idea of repetitive patterns with sets etc&#8230; um, and you said it and I link the two ideas in my mind because of that&#8230; perhaps with two things that have no connection point at all. </p>
<p>I hope I&#8217;m not wasting time in this forum by asking this q.<br />
It just seems like a fun q to ask, that&#8217;s all.</p>
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		<title>By: Rudy</title>
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		<dc:creator>Rudy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 08 Sep 2008 02:30:43 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Oh, for sure I'm going to vote, and I hope everyone reading this votes too.  Normally I like to stay away from partisan politics on my blog---as it provokes discussions that are somewhat repetetive---but I'll say something on the topic right before the election...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Oh, for sure I&#8217;m going to vote, and I hope everyone reading this votes too.  Normally I like to stay away from partisan politics on my blog&#8212;as it provokes discussions that are somewhat repetetive&#8212;but I&#8217;ll say something on the topic right before the election&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: womansvoice</title>
		<link>http://www.rudyrucker.com/blog/2008/09/04/instead-of-watching-the-convention/#comment-16325</link>
		<dc:creator>womansvoice</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 08 Sep 2008 01:56:34 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hey Rudy, are you gonna vote this year?

I mean, I know you have ideas about politics and the like but do you believe in voting?

Some of the radical thinkers in my life refuse to vote. They say it's about buying into an illusion, the illusion that we belong to a participatory form of government. 

There were actually people in my home town during the 1980 Reagan/Carter campaign who were trying to sell not voting as the truly progressive thing to do. Some of the progressives I knew fell for the bait until one of us figured out that this was a fake CIA movement. He had a dossier with the FBI for yrs because he did so much, um, community organizing -lol- ! 

There were a lot of spooks around the campus where I came of age.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hey Rudy, are you gonna vote this year?</p>
<p>I mean, I know you have ideas about politics and the like but do you believe in voting?</p>
<p>Some of the radical thinkers in my life refuse to vote. They say it&#8217;s about buying into an illusion, the illusion that we belong to a participatory form of government. </p>
<p>There were actually people in my home town during the 1980 Reagan/Carter campaign who were trying to sell not voting as the truly progressive thing to do. Some of the progressives I knew fell for the bait until one of us figured out that this was a fake CIA movement. He had a dossier with the FBI for yrs because he did so much, um, community organizing -lol- ! </p>
<p>There were a lot of spooks around the campus where I came of age.</p>
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		<title>By: rs</title>
		<link>http://www.rudyrucker.com/blog/2008/09/04/instead-of-watching-the-convention/#comment-16317</link>
		<dc:creator>rs</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 07 Sep 2008 01:06:01 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>isn't every book the last?  if not maybe it should be, then rebirth a new author.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>isn&#8217;t every book the last?  if not maybe it should be, then rebirth a new author.</p>
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		<title>By: greg r</title>
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		<dc:creator>greg r</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 06 Sep 2008 15:57:07 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I have not read it yet, but j.g ballard recently wrote an autobiography in response to a nasty diagnosis titled Miracles of Life. I believe he intends it to be his last book.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I have not read it yet, but j.g ballard recently wrote an autobiography in response to a nasty diagnosis titled Miracles of Life. I believe he intends it to be his last book.</p>
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		<title>By: Mac Tonnies</title>
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		<dc:creator>Mac Tonnies</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 05 Sep 2008 23:11:08 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Ever thought of writing something strange under a pen-name or feigning collaboration with a nonexistent writer?  (Now that I think about it, that's essentially how you tackled "Saucer Wisdom," one of my favorites from your canon . . .)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Ever thought of writing something strange under a pen-name or feigning collaboration with a nonexistent writer?  (Now that I think about it, that&#8217;s essentially how you tackled &#8220;Saucer Wisdom,&#8221; one of my favorites from your canon . . .)</p>
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		<title>By: Gamma</title>
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		<dc:creator>Gamma</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 05 Sep 2008 22:41:17 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>hey rudy this stuff yu just created touched me slightly i only ever met yu once and that was in Brighton at whatever world con it was - when i arrived i was invited to a room with bongs - i sat on the bed next to this guy who happened to turn out to be Robert Sheckley &#38; then later on in the pathway to SubGenius i think BOB - just trying to smile - yu may have heard that the great Artist &#38; Dick-head KEN CAMPBELL has entered into the old blue tunnel wherin hath gone BOB and Theodore etc

love from us all over here in KT</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>hey rudy this stuff yu just created touched me slightly i only ever met yu once and that was in Brighton at whatever world con it was - when i arrived i was invited to a room with bongs - i sat on the bed next to this guy who happened to turn out to be Robert Sheckley &amp; then later on in the pathway to SubGenius i think BOB - just trying to smile - yu may have heard that the great Artist &amp; Dick-head KEN CAMPBELL has entered into the old blue tunnel wherin hath gone BOB and Theodore etc</p>
<p>love from us all over here in KT</p>
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		<title>By: Rudy</title>
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		<dc:creator>Rudy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 05 Sep 2008 18:27:46 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I like womansvoice ideas on memoirs, and MarcL's comments on quitting writing.

I don't really think I'll stop writing, it's just a kind of wishful thinking thing.  I polished up all my tasks (the revisions, and the story with Paul Di Fi) and now stand at the edge of the memoir pool. If I imagine this might be my last book, maybe it's easier to jump in.

Describing oneself as a character is a good way to think of a memoir.  And I like the notion of events that are on the forest floor as opposed to in the canopy.  The things that somehow seem so important, those tiny crumbly recollections.

This morning I've been working on a painting.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I like womansvoice ideas on memoirs, and MarcL&#8217;s comments on quitting writing.</p>
<p>I don&#8217;t really think I&#8217;ll stop writing, it&#8217;s just a kind of wishful thinking thing.  I polished up all my tasks (the revisions, and the story with Paul Di Fi) and now stand at the edge of the memoir pool. If I imagine this might be my last book, maybe it&#8217;s easier to jump in.</p>
<p>Describing oneself as a character is a good way to think of a memoir.  And I like the notion of events that are on the forest floor as opposed to in the canopy.  The things that somehow seem so important, those tiny crumbly recollections.</p>
<p>This morning I&#8217;ve been working on a painting.</p>
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		<title>By: MarcL</title>
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		<dc:creator>MarcL</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 05 Sep 2008 17:21:08 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>It’s an odd thing…the thought a writer would decide to stop.  Truly depressing in some ways.  On the other hand, people announce their retirement all the time, maybe to mark some kind of formal end to some exhausted internal process they think they comprehend (and can willfully end) but then a few years later keep on going…maybe in a different way, or maybe just doing the same old thing again.  Stephen King has retired a few times now.  Miyazaki announced that Princess Mononoke would be his last movie, and has gone on to make several more splendid ones.

A few years ago at Norwescon I was hanging out with a well known sf writer I've known for many years,  and he remarked that after the book he was currently writing, he was probably going to retire...at least from sf.  His attitude was very businesslike:  He'd been doing this long enough, writing one book every few years.  He had it all worked out.  I couldn’t imagine having that attitude, but then again, I haven’t been plugging out a book every few years…and even when I was, they weren’t built on so much research as his.

Chip Delany talks about how many writers someday realize that they are no longer a writer, that it’s over.  This is probably moreso the case for writers who start very young, like Chip.  Maybe like me.  I can’t imagine it because it has been the way I always defined myself.  Always.  My earliest memories of what I would do with my life all involve being a writer.  Some of my earliest memories of doing anything are of writing…probably because I have polished those memories and kept them bright over the years.

L. Sprague De Camp wrote a book on the business of writing, which I read when I was a teenager, and said that writing is a profession that gets harder the longer you do it. I don’t think that’s true for everyone...except perhaps in the sense that one’s standards and skill get higher, and therefore it’s more work to get something to a level of polish that feels right.  

I know that in terms of energy, I’ve never been more disciplined and able to just throw myself into the creative trance of writing than when I was a teenager, with no real life responsibilities (really, no life), sitting alone in my room for a week at a time just writing a novel in one continuous dream.  Those were amazing sessions in terms of entering into a vision, where I could hardly type fast enough to keep up with the visions…and writing a story was exactly like living it.  I have dreamed of being able to get back into that state, with the experience I have now…but I think that was largely a product of my age.

Well, these are some morose morning thoughts.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>It’s an odd thing…the thought a writer would decide to stop.  Truly depressing in some ways.  On the other hand, people announce their retirement all the time, maybe to mark some kind of formal end to some exhausted internal process they think they comprehend (and can willfully end) but then a few years later keep on going…maybe in a different way, or maybe just doing the same old thing again.  Stephen King has retired a few times now.  Miyazaki announced that Princess Mononoke would be his last movie, and has gone on to make several more splendid ones.</p>
<p>A few years ago at Norwescon I was hanging out with a well known sf writer I&#8217;ve known for many years,  and he remarked that after the book he was currently writing, he was probably going to retire&#8230;at least from sf.  His attitude was very businesslike:  He&#8217;d been doing this long enough, writing one book every few years.  He had it all worked out.  I couldn’t imagine having that attitude, but then again, I haven’t been plugging out a book every few years…and even when I was, they weren’t built on so much research as his.</p>
<p>Chip Delany talks about how many writers someday realize that they are no longer a writer, that it’s over.  This is probably moreso the case for writers who start very young, like Chip.  Maybe like me.  I can’t imagine it because it has been the way I always defined myself.  Always.  My earliest memories of what I would do with my life all involve being a writer.  Some of my earliest memories of doing anything are of writing…probably because I have polished those memories and kept them bright over the years.</p>
<p>L. Sprague De Camp wrote a book on the business of writing, which I read when I was a teenager, and said that writing is a profession that gets harder the longer you do it. I don’t think that’s true for everyone&#8230;except perhaps in the sense that one’s standards and skill get higher, and therefore it’s more work to get something to a level of polish that feels right.  </p>
<p>I know that in terms of energy, I’ve never been more disciplined and able to just throw myself into the creative trance of writing than when I was a teenager, with no real life responsibilities (really, no life), sitting alone in my room for a week at a time just writing a novel in one continuous dream.  Those were amazing sessions in terms of entering into a vision, where I could hardly type fast enough to keep up with the visions…and writing a story was exactly like living it.  I have dreamed of being able to get back into that state, with the experience I have now…but I think that was largely a product of my age.</p>
<p>Well, these are some morose morning thoughts.</p>
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