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	<title>Comments on: Starting &#8220;Tangier Routines&#8221;</title>
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	<pubDate>Thu, 28 Aug 2008 17:01:08 +0000</pubDate>
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		<title>By: Gary</title>
		<link>http://www.rudyrucker.com/blog/2008/03/11/tangier-routines-1/#comment-14119</link>
		<dc:creator>Gary</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 07 Apr 2008 13:10:21 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Thanks Rudy. I really want to check it out!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thanks Rudy. I really want to check it out!</p>
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		<title>By: Rudy</title>
		<link>http://www.rudyrucker.com/blog/2008/03/11/tangier-routines-1/#comment-14111</link>
		<dc:creator>Rudy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 06 Apr 2008 19:18:06 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Gary, WHITE LIGHT is in print from Thunder's Mouth Press; you can get it from &lt;a target="blank" href="http://www.amazon.com/dp/156858198X/ref=nosim/?tag=rusbl-20" rel="nofollow"&gt;Amazon&lt;/a&gt;, and I'm sure Powell's could order it into the store or online as well.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Gary, WHITE LIGHT is in print from Thunder&#8217;s Mouth Press; you can get it from <a target="blank" href="http://www.amazon.com/dp/156858198X/ref=nosim/?tag=rusbl-20" rel="nofollow">Amazon</a>, and I&#8217;m sure Powell&#8217;s could order it into the store or online as well.</p>
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		<title>By: Gary</title>
		<link>http://www.rudyrucker.com/blog/2008/03/11/tangier-routines-1/#comment-14106</link>
		<dc:creator>Gary</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 06 Apr 2008 17:27:54 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>It's tough to find a copy of WHITE LIGHT. Not even Powell's here in Porland has a copy.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>It&#8217;s tough to find a copy of WHITE LIGHT. Not even Powell&#8217;s here in Porland has a copy.</p>
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		<title>By: Gamma</title>
		<link>http://www.rudyrucker.com/blog/2008/03/11/tangier-routines-1/#comment-13924</link>
		<dc:creator>Gamma</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 26 Mar 2008 00:58:13 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>i was just reading one of bills letters to Jack in that book now about Bills bit in 3-Fisted Tales - what the hell is it Rudy dat eshatonic thingy ma jig a log zen
p@raps

much peace &#38; trans quity in yur BS

G</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>i was just reading one of bills letters to Jack in that book now about Bills bit in 3-Fisted Tales - what the hell is it Rudy dat eshatonic thingy ma jig a log zen<br />
p@raps</p>
<p>much peace &amp; trans quity in yur BS</p>
<p>G</p>
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		<title>By: Eric</title>
		<link>http://www.rudyrucker.com/blog/2008/03/11/tangier-routines-1/#comment-13880</link>
		<dc:creator>Eric</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 24 Mar 2008 02:05:54 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hello Rudy,
Thanks for your blog.  Always interesting.  I never knew that you lived in Lynchburg.  I lived there from '73 until I was 8 in '81.  

Here's a youtube video of Burroughs explaining his cutup technique.  You may have seen it but I thought this would be a good spot to link it: 

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6NU3dIdqIBw

"...the only thing that is not prerecorded are the prerecordings themselves..."

Take it easy,
E</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hello Rudy,<br />
Thanks for your blog.  Always interesting.  I never knew that you lived in Lynchburg.  I lived there from &#8216;73 until I was 8 in &#8216;81.  </p>
<p>Here&#8217;s a youtube video of Burroughs explaining his cutup technique.  You may have seen it but I thought this would be a good spot to link it: </p>
<p><a href="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6NU3dIdqIBw" rel="nofollow">http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6NU3dIdqIBw</a></p>
<p>&#8220;&#8230;the only thing that is not prerecorded are the prerecordings themselves&#8230;&#8221;</p>
<p>Take it easy,<br />
E</p>
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		<title>By: Gamma</title>
		<link>http://www.rudyrucker.com/blog/2008/03/11/tangier-routines-1/#comment-13824</link>
		<dc:creator>Gamma</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 19 Mar 2008 23:07:58 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>i was sat here in this chair with these slow fingers when i heard that Sir Arthur C Clarke had gone up into the blue maybe tunnel elsewhere - i went to lay down &#38; read aloud to Tami &#38; the Poodle (jake) the story set in TIBET yu know the 9000000 Names of God fitting in with the turning of that old prayer wheel moving about - i suppose that yu will have a lot of fun if we shifted up a degree

G

&#38; just before the BSFA Easter con arising at Heathrow

Dave</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>i was sat here in this chair with these slow fingers when i heard that Sir Arthur C Clarke had gone up into the blue maybe tunnel elsewhere - i went to lay down &amp; read aloud to Tami &amp; the Poodle (jake) the story set in TIBET yu know the 9000000 Names of God fitting in with the turning of that old prayer wheel moving about - i suppose that yu will have a lot of fun if we shifted up a degree</p>
<p>G</p>
<p>&amp; just before the BSFA Easter con arising at Heathrow</p>
<p>Dave</p>
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		<title>By: Gary</title>
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		<dc:creator>Gary</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 19 Mar 2008 16:55:29 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I watch a show yestarday about Alan Turing on http://www.inner-live.com . Anybody see it ?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I watch a show yestarday about Alan Turing on <a href="http://www.inner-live.com" rel="nofollow">http://www.inner-live.com</a> . Anybody see it ?</p>
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		<title>By: Alex</title>
		<link>http://www.rudyrucker.com/blog/2008/03/11/tangier-routines-1/#comment-13804</link>
		<dc:creator>Alex</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 18 Mar 2008 07:58:03 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>A strange and wonderful girlfriend bought me the strange and wonderful 'Ah Pook is Here' back in 1979, I always remember the weird quote "Death needs time for what it kills to grow in..."

BTW. I finally got Cellab 2 to run on my Mac. Thanks to the CrossOver Mac software! I'm looking forward to checking it out.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>A strange and wonderful girlfriend bought me the strange and wonderful &#8216;Ah Pook is Here&#8217; back in 1979, I always remember the weird quote &#8220;Death needs time for what it kills to grow in&#8230;&#8221;</p>
<p>BTW. I finally got Cellab 2 to run on my Mac. Thanks to the CrossOver Mac software! I&#8217;m looking forward to checking it out.</p>
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		<title>By: linus r.</title>
		<link>http://www.rudyrucker.com/blog/2008/03/11/tangier-routines-1/#comment-13800</link>
		<dc:creator>linus r.</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 17 Mar 2008 16:12:04 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I stumbled across an unusual black and white photographic collection of Chris Stein and Debbie Harry in New York with Burroughs, I can not remember the name of the book.... all these black and white photos of Burroughs and Chris Stein and his infamous knife collection in a New York appartment.... maybe the following link is this book, I don't know.... I'm not too familiar with any of this.... 
http://www.amazon.com/Beat-Punks-PB-Victor-Bockris/dp/0306809397</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I stumbled across an unusual black and white photographic collection of Chris Stein and Debbie Harry in New York with Burroughs, I can not remember the name of the book&#8230;. all these black and white photos of Burroughs and Chris Stein and his infamous knife collection in a New York appartment&#8230;. maybe the following link is this book, I don&#8217;t know&#8230;. I&#8217;m not too familiar with any of this&#8230;.<br />
<a href="http://www.amazon.com/Beat-Punks-PB-Victor-Bockris/dp/0306809397" rel="nofollow">http://www.amazon.com/Beat-Punks-PB-Victor-Bockris/dp/0306809397</a></p>
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		<title>By: Gary</title>
		<link>http://www.rudyrucker.com/blog/2008/03/11/tangier-routines-1/#comment-13792</link>
		<dc:creator>Gary</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 15 Mar 2008 23:04:46 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Far out is right.  Man, sharing orgones with El Hombre Invisible himself.  The next time I go to Powell's I'll have to pick up a copy of that book.  After all, it's "Interzone Approved". 

And yes I completely agree.  Cronenberg's film was good. It's one of the most brilliant under-rated films of our generation. Personally I'd like to see it in black and white. The lighting design is highly reminiscent of french new wave/film noir. 

But when I kited the idea about Naked Lunch being an animated film, I was thinking in terms of a more literal translation of the book.  Off hand, I don't think the violence as depicted in the book would be a problem. Many popular graphic novels with highly violent content has crossed over to film without any legal or political outcries.  

Of course there will be those who'll be disturbed about the sexual depictions. 
Especially those who still equate any use of animated film as anything other that media strictly for children's entertainment.  

True, Naked Lunch has been in print for over half a century and has been recognized as one of the most influential novels in 20th century literature. 
Even the current TV hit series 'CSI Miami' had the foresnics detectives pursuing a post-op transgender perpertrator named Dr Benway. 

However, just as Cronenberg mentioned in several interviews, no visual version would be able to depict the whole of the book. How many countries did he say it would be banned?  Ninety? 

Who knows? Perhaps in another fifty years things will change. But I sure as hell wouldn't hold my breath. 

The same also goes with comic strips depicting his work. However, that doesn't mean that cartoonists can't use Burroughsian techniques to break through the three to four panel gags that the media syndicates have strangled the very creativity out of them.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Far out is right.  Man, sharing orgones with El Hombre Invisible himself.  The next time I go to Powell&#8217;s I&#8217;ll have to pick up a copy of that book.  After all, it&#8217;s &#8220;Interzone Approved&#8221;. </p>
<p>And yes I completely agree.  Cronenberg&#8217;s film was good. It&#8217;s one of the most brilliant under-rated films of our generation. Personally I&#8217;d like to see it in black and white. The lighting design is highly reminiscent of french new wave/film noir. </p>
<p>But when I kited the idea about Naked Lunch being an animated film, I was thinking in terms of a more literal translation of the book.  Off hand, I don&#8217;t think the violence as depicted in the book would be a problem. Many popular graphic novels with highly violent content has crossed over to film without any legal or political outcries.  </p>
<p>Of course there will be those who&#8217;ll be disturbed about the sexual depictions.<br />
Especially those who still equate any use of animated film as anything other that media strictly for children&#8217;s entertainment.  </p>
<p>True, Naked Lunch has been in print for over half a century and has been recognized as one of the most influential novels in 20th century literature.<br />
Even the current TV hit series &#8216;CSI Miami&#8217; had the foresnics detectives pursuing a post-op transgender perpertrator named Dr Benway. </p>
<p>However, just as Cronenberg mentioned in several interviews, no visual version would be able to depict the whole of the book. How many countries did he say it would be banned?  Ninety? </p>
<p>Who knows? Perhaps in another fifty years things will change. But I sure as hell wouldn&#8217;t hold my breath. </p>
<p>The same also goes with comic strips depicting his work. However, that doesn&#8217;t mean that cartoonists can&#8217;t use Burroughsian techniques to break through the three to four panel gags that the media syndicates have strangled the very creativity out of them.</p>
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