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	<title>Comments on: &#8220;What Is Gnarl?&#8221; Video.  Big Sur.</title>
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		<title>By: Val Fisk</title>
		<link>http://www.rudyrucker.com/blog/2007/05/31/what-is-gnarl/#comment-9741</link>
		<dc:creator>Val Fisk</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 07 Jun 2007 18:32:04 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Don't make fun of my name or I'll send my sister Delphine over to beat you up.</description>
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		<title>By: Chris Phoenix</title>
		<link>http://www.rudyrucker.com/blog/2007/05/31/what-is-gnarl/#comment-9730</link>
		<dc:creator>Chris Phoenix</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 06 Jun 2007 20:36:34 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>In the Newsweek column, Rudy compares artificial bacteria to gangsta-clothed MIT nerds meeting the real homies.

It's been observed that invasive species have fewer parasites.

It's also been observed that bacteriophages play a major role in keeping bacteria in check.

Suppose a bacterium is developed with non-standard DNA coding, either for convenience of the researchers, or in a well-intentioned attempt to keep it from sharing artificial genes with natural bacteria.

Sure, it would probably have trouble competing with natural bacteria for resources. But on the other hand, it would be completely immune to all bacteriophages.

IANABiologist, but this sounds to me like a really, really bad idea. (Protozoa would presumably continue to eat them. But invasive species have *fewer* parasites, not always none--about half as many, IIRC.)

I haven't seen this aspect of artificial bacterial genomes discussed anywhere. Has anyone here?

Chris</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In the Newsweek column, Rudy compares artificial bacteria to gangsta-clothed MIT nerds meeting the real homies.</p>
<p>It&#8217;s been observed that invasive species have fewer parasites.</p>
<p>It&#8217;s also been observed that bacteriophages play a major role in keeping bacteria in check.</p>
<p>Suppose a bacterium is developed with non-standard DNA coding, either for convenience of the researchers, or in a well-intentioned attempt to keep it from sharing artificial genes with natural bacteria.</p>
<p>Sure, it would probably have trouble competing with natural bacteria for resources. But on the other hand, it would be completely immune to all bacteriophages.</p>
<p>IANABiologist, but this sounds to me like a really, really bad idea. (Protozoa would presumably continue to eat them. But invasive species have *fewer* parasites, not always none&#8211;about half as many, IIRC.)</p>
<p>I haven&#8217;t seen this aspect of artificial bacterial genomes discussed anywhere. Has anyone here?</p>
<p>Chris</p>
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		<title>By: Steve H</title>
		<link>http://www.rudyrucker.com/blog/2007/05/31/what-is-gnarl/#comment-9689</link>
		<dc:creator>Steve H</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 04 Jun 2007 15:32:01 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Rudy, there was a song on the radio a few years back along the lines of 'you and me baby ain't nothin but mammals, let's do it like they do on the Discovery Channel." Maybe the lady was a fan. You shoulda wheenked at her.

“Eadem Mutata Resurgo.” Basically what I groan every morning when the alarm goes off, except that I translate it into scatological terms.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Rudy, there was a song on the radio a few years back along the lines of &#8216;you and me baby ain&#8217;t nothin but mammals, let&#8217;s do it like they do on the Discovery Channel.&#8221; Maybe the lady was a fan. You shoulda wheenked at her.</p>
<p>“Eadem Mutata Resurgo.” Basically what I groan every morning when the alarm goes off, except that I translate it into scatological terms.</p>
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		<title>By: Pekka</title>
		<link>http://www.rudyrucker.com/blog/2007/05/31/what-is-gnarl/#comment-9685</link>
		<dc:creator>Pekka</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 03 Jun 2007 13:51:26 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Gnarl is synonymous to quatum computation, that due added dimensions of processing on molecular level represents itself as gnarly objects when viewed on 3D by human eye. I got the idea while reading Endless Forms, Most Beautiful - combined with re-reading Herbert's Quantum stuff.

It's all about HEAVY Quatum Computation happening there in the engine room. For example, even the most powerful supercomputer cannot simulate a simple protein folding that happens billions of times per seconds in a cell. Proteins fold according to the proxy wave structures of individual amino acid molecules within the sequence and form a new folded structure, that interacts according to its quantum wave structure with other proteins.

It's like the QC layer was designed to be self-assembling to take account of proxy wave probabilities, so that it is easy to lay out a new blueprints, and then just let them self-assemble.

Thus, "an insect", or "a human" is a product that generates "some profit" for the company, who "launched the product". The questions is obviously what profit do they make :-)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Gnarl is synonymous to quatum computation, that due added dimensions of processing on molecular level represents itself as gnarly objects when viewed on 3D by human eye. I got the idea while reading Endless Forms, Most Beautiful - combined with re-reading Herbert&#8217;s Quantum stuff.</p>
<p>It&#8217;s all about HEAVY Quatum Computation happening there in the engine room. For example, even the most powerful supercomputer cannot simulate a simple protein folding that happens billions of times per seconds in a cell. Proteins fold according to the proxy wave structures of individual amino acid molecules within the sequence and form a new folded structure, that interacts according to its quantum wave structure with other proteins.</p>
<p>It&#8217;s like the QC layer was designed to be self-assembling to take account of proxy wave probabilities, so that it is easy to lay out a new blueprints, and then just let them self-assemble.</p>
<p>Thus, &#8220;an insect&#8221;, or &#8220;a human&#8221; is a product that generates &#8220;some profit&#8221; for the company, who &#8220;launched the product&#8221;. The questions is obviously what profit do they make <img src='http://www.rudyrucker.com/blog/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':-)' class='wp-smiley' /></p>
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		<title>By: Scott Armstrong</title>
		<link>http://www.rudyrucker.com/blog/2007/05/31/what-is-gnarl/#comment-9676</link>
		<dc:creator>Scott Armstrong</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 02 Jun 2007 06:41:15 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I find that Gnarl is everywhere once I start looking for it.  I passed the remnants of a tree in town a few weeks back that someone was trying to unearth and snapped a shot with my phone (funny--5 years ago that would sound sci-fi-esque), and I visited my parents in the Black Hills last weekend and took a picture of the "decorative" pine tree roots at their driveway entrance.  Very gnarly.

The keyhole rock at Big Sur is one of my favorite places--actually, the entire central coast is one of my favorite places.  The irregularity of the rocks, the trees, and the waves somehow calm me so.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I find that Gnarl is everywhere once I start looking for it.  I passed the remnants of a tree in town a few weeks back that someone was trying to unearth and snapped a shot with my phone (funny&#8211;5 years ago that would sound sci-fi-esque), and I visited my parents in the Black Hills last weekend and took a picture of the &#8220;decorative&#8221; pine tree roots at their driveway entrance.  Very gnarly.</p>
<p>The keyhole rock at Big Sur is one of my favorite places&#8211;actually, the entire central coast is one of my favorite places.  The irregularity of the rocks, the trees, and the waves somehow calm me so.</p>
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		<title>By: rs</title>
		<link>http://www.rudyrucker.com/blog/2007/05/31/what-is-gnarl/#comment-9668</link>
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		<pubDate>Fri, 01 Jun 2007 14:05:33 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I like your Newsweek article, care to share how that came about?

I've had some thoughts recently about genetic modification and the idea that "the genome is the ecosystem."  I contend that it is an error to think of a species as existing in isolation from its ecosystem.  When we modify ourselves we are modifying the ecosystem, and when we modify the ecosystem we modify ourselves.  Another way of saying this is that species don't actually exist, but that there is a quasi-stable computation that is an ecosystem.

I think it was an article in Science News that brought this idea to the fore about genetically modifying mosquitoes so that they would not transmit malaria.   As you have suggested for a long time we will not only modify ourselves but the world around us.  And I'll add we have no way of predicting the outcome.  But as I said to you once before, our progeny will no more recognize us as them than we see Lucy as one of us.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I like your Newsweek article, care to share how that came about?</p>
<p>I&#8217;ve had some thoughts recently about genetic modification and the idea that &#8220;the genome is the ecosystem.&#8221;  I contend that it is an error to think of a species as existing in isolation from its ecosystem.  When we modify ourselves we are modifying the ecosystem, and when we modify the ecosystem we modify ourselves.  Another way of saying this is that species don&#8217;t actually exist, but that there is a quasi-stable computation that is an ecosystem.</p>
<p>I think it was an article in Science News that brought this idea to the fore about genetically modifying mosquitoes so that they would not transmit malaria.   As you have suggested for a long time we will not only modify ourselves but the world around us.  And I&#8217;ll add we have no way of predicting the outcome.  But as I said to you once before, our progeny will no more recognize us as them than we see Lucy as one of us.</p>
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		<title>By: rs</title>
		<link>http://www.rudyrucker.com/blog/2007/05/31/what-is-gnarl/#comment-9667</link>
		<dc:creator>rs</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 01 Jun 2007 13:23:50 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>this is a great post rudy.  I feel like I should have something more to say about it, but what the hell.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>this is a great post rudy.  I feel like I should have something more to say about it, but what the hell.</p>
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