Comments on: PS2 Note #10: Frank Shook’s Advice on Teleportation http://www.rudyrucker.com/blog/2007/02/16/ps2-note-10-frank-shooks-advice-on-teleportation/ Sun, 23 Nov 2008 09:21:05 +0000 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.6.1 By: biggreydog http://www.rudyrucker.com/blog/2007/02/16/ps2-note-10-frank-shooks-advice-on-teleportation/#comment-11309 biggreydog Fri, 21 Sep 2007 03:34:09 +0000 http://www.rudyrucker.com/blog/?p=370#comment-11309 In the olden days Frank used to materialize on my porch on Watauga. Amazing In the olden days Frank used to materialize on my porch on Watauga. Amazing

]]> By: Al http://www.rudyrucker.com/blog/2007/02/16/ps2-note-10-frank-shooks-advice-on-teleportation/#comment-7271 Al Tue, 20 Feb 2007 18:16:19 +0000 http://www.rudyrucker.com/blog/?p=370#comment-7271 A few thoughts on the Buddhist tip, regarding conciousness, hylozism, etc.... One Buddhism considers our perception of individual selfdom to be an illusion. We are colony organisms, made up of parts. When I think of my "self," it's just one part of my brain thinking about another part. My whole brain can't think at once. The path to enlightement lies in losing this illusion of an individual self seperate from the rest of existence. Questions that arise: If I have no self, how can I merge it with the planetary mind? Wouldn't that just scale up the illusion? Or is this merging equal to losing this individual self? If the planetary mind is a higher form, why is it concious? Shouldn't it have rejected that condition? Doesn't that state just cut it off from the rest of existence? Two Buddhism teaches that a) there is no such thing as an individual soul, but that b) there is such a thing as reincarnation. It's a very fruitful contradiction. The discussions about fire remind me of the Buddha's response to someone who asked about this contradiction. He said, to paraphrase, when you light a second match from a first, what is the relationship between the two? Three "In physics terms, reincarnation is similar to sensitive dependence on initial conditions." Discuss. Ya'll are into some heavy stuff here that I'm not up to speed on. Hope the above is not too obvious. A few thoughts on the Buddhist tip, regarding conciousness, hylozism, etc….

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Buddhism considers our perception of individual selfdom to be an illusion. We are colony organisms, made up of parts. When I think of my “self,” it’s just one part of my brain thinking about another part. My whole brain can’t think at once. The path to enlightement lies in losing this illusion of an individual self seperate from the rest of existence.

Questions that arise:

If I have no self, how can I merge it with the planetary mind? Wouldn’t that just scale up the illusion? Or is this merging equal to losing this individual self?

If the planetary mind is a higher form, why is it concious? Shouldn’t it have rejected that condition? Doesn’t that state just cut it off from the rest of existence?

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Buddhism teaches that a) there is no such thing as an individual soul, but that b) there is such a thing as reincarnation. It’s a very fruitful contradiction.

The discussions about fire remind me of the Buddha’s response to someone who asked about this contradiction. He said, to paraphrase, when you light a second match from a first, what is the relationship between the two?

Three
“In physics terms, reincarnation is similar to sensitive dependence on initial conditions.” Discuss.

Ya’ll are into some heavy stuff here that I’m not up to speed on. Hope the above is not too obvious.

]]> By: Steve H http://www.rudyrucker.com/blog/2007/02/16/ps2-note-10-frank-shooks-advice-on-teleportation/#comment-7269 Steve H Tue, 20 Feb 2007 15:13:12 +0000 http://www.rudyrucker.com/blog/?p=370#comment-7269 Rudy, I'd say silps don't teleport because they don't imagine the way we do - I still say a lot of our mentality is based on physical urges. We imagine vividly what it would be like if we could climb up and pick that fruit, or grab that girl. A silp might think 'what if I were somewhere else?' but not be capable of making a clear picture 'I am somewhere else.' They wouldn't be frightened of death or destruction, as you've pointed out, so they wouldn't have fight-or-flight urges. We, however, would teleport in terror and exhilaration, hoping to arrive safely with every tingling nerve in our sweating bodies, and make with the Tarzan yodel when we materialized. Of course, there might be nerves-of-steel airline pilot types who could teleport your house by themselves using only confidence and imagination. Interesting idea - high tech that machines can't handle. Godlike AIs having to ask us to teleport their physical selves. And yes, by all means let's leave the rats and roaches out of the teleport loop! Rudy, I’d say silps don’t teleport because they don’t imagine the way we do - I still say a lot of our mentality is based on physical urges. We imagine vividly what it would be like if we could climb up and pick that fruit, or grab that girl. A silp might think ‘what if I were somewhere else?’ but not be capable of making a clear picture ‘I am somewhere else.’ They wouldn’t be frightened of death or destruction, as you’ve pointed out, so they wouldn’t have fight-or-flight urges. We, however, would teleport in terror and exhilaration, hoping to arrive safely with every tingling nerve in our sweating bodies, and make with the Tarzan yodel when we materialized. Of course, there might be nerves-of-steel airline pilot types who could teleport your house by themselves using only confidence and imagination. Interesting idea - high tech that machines can’t handle. Godlike AIs having to ask us to teleport their physical selves. And yes, by all means let’s leave the rats and roaches out of the teleport loop!

]]> By: Frank Shook http://www.rudyrucker.com/blog/2007/02/16/ps2-note-10-frank-shooks-advice-on-teleportation/#comment-7251 Frank Shook Mon, 19 Feb 2007 02:56:40 +0000 http://www.rudyrucker.com/blog/?p=370#comment-7251 Actually, plants and animals CAN teleport. They do all the time. We just can't tell the difference because they don't differentiate. In fact there's only truly one of each species, except for us, who got out of the loop in that unfortunate Garden hassle. Noah had it down. Actually, plants and animals CAN teleport. They do all the time. We just can’t tell the difference because they don’t differentiate. In fact there’s only truly one of each species, except for us, who got out of the loop in that unfortunate Garden hassle. Noah had it down.

]]> By: Alex http://www.rudyrucker.com/blog/2007/02/16/ps2-note-10-frank-shooks-advice-on-teleportation/#comment-7241 Alex Sun, 18 Feb 2007 10:09:08 +0000 http://www.rudyrucker.com/blog/?p=370#comment-7241 Saucer Wisdom is one of the best books I have ever read. At some point in the future it will be recognised as the masterpiece it is. My Rudy Rucker Top 5 1. the Wares (1~4) 2. Hacker and the Ants 3. Saucer Wisdom 4. Spaceland 5= Mathematicians in Love 5= Master of Space and Time Saucer Wisdom is one of the best books I have ever read.
At some point in the future it will be recognised as the masterpiece it is.

My Rudy Rucker Top 5
1. the Wares (1~4)
2. Hacker and the Ants
3. Saucer Wisdom
4. Spaceland
5= Mathematicians in Love
5= Master of Space and Time

]]> By: linus http://www.rudyrucker.com/blog/2007/02/16/ps2-note-10-frank-shooks-advice-on-teleportation/#comment-7239 linus Sun, 18 Feb 2007 07:40:49 +0000 http://www.rudyrucker.com/blog/?p=370#comment-7239 hey! all you teleportation fanatics! your only real salvation is the "Jefferson Airplane Loves You" sticker as seen on their official site.... "all the rest are details...." linus, ex-teleportation fanatic hey! all you teleportation fanatics! your only real salvation is the “Jefferson Airplane Loves You” sticker as seen on their official site…. “all the rest are details….”

linus, ex-teleportation fanatic

]]> By: dianne http://www.rudyrucker.com/blog/2007/02/16/ps2-note-10-frank-shooks-advice-on-teleportation/#comment-7236 dianne Sat, 17 Feb 2007 20:11:30 +0000 http://www.rudyrucker.com/blog/?p=370#comment-7236 Rudy, I see in your blog that you speak of teleportation and remote viewing. Have you ever listened to the Art Bell show on the radio? He knows of people who know of these subjects in real life and have interviewed and talked with them. What do you know about this? Dianne Rudy, I see in your blog that you speak of teleportation and remote viewing. Have you ever listened to the Art Bell show on the radio? He knows of people who know of these subjects in real life and have interviewed and talked with them. What do you know about this?

Dianne

]]> By: COOP http://www.rudyrucker.com/blog/2007/02/16/ps2-note-10-frank-shooks-advice-on-teleportation/#comment-7233 COOP Sat, 17 Feb 2007 06:57:46 +0000 http://www.rudyrucker.com/blog/?p=370#comment-7233 Frank looks like a fun guy to have around! Frank looks like a fun guy to have around!

]]> By: Kelson Philo http://www.rudyrucker.com/blog/2007/02/16/ps2-note-10-frank-shooks-advice-on-teleportation/#comment-7229 Kelson Philo Fri, 16 Feb 2007 22:14:42 +0000 http://www.rudyrucker.com/blog/?p=370#comment-7229 Great Jumping Junipers, man! What talk of Magic is this?!? Great Jumping Junipers, man! What talk of Magic is this?!?

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