Comments on: New Zealand, Part 3. Ta Moko. http://www.rudyrucker.com/blog/2006/12/07/new-zealand-part-3-ta-moko/?utm_source=rss&utm_medium=rss&utm_campaign=new-zealand-part-3-ta-moko Wed, 08 Feb 2012 06:58:13 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=3.3.1 By: Maori http://www.rudyrucker.com/blog/2006/12/07/new-zealand-part-3-ta-moko/comment-page-1/#comment-30534 Maori Sat, 10 Dec 2011 19:11:24 +0000 http://www.rudyrucker.com/wordpress/?p=24#comment-30534 I haven't met such an interesting and readable site yet! Thank you so much for sharing everything. I liked pictures and that book as well. I haven’t met such an interesting and readable site yet! Thank you so much for sharing everything. I liked pictures and that book as well.

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]]> By: Gyran Gymble http://www.rudyrucker.com/blog/2006/12/07/new-zealand-part-3-ta-moko/comment-page-1/#comment-30389 Gyran Gymble Fri, 11 Nov 2011 00:41:10 +0000 http://www.rudyrucker.com/wordpress/?p=24#comment-30389 This book on moko was just released, I picked it up in the library and was blown away by the information and high quality photos. It's got alot of stories about moko and the people who wear it from the early appearance of it through to modern day. Hope it helps. http://www.penguin.com.au/products/9780143566854/mau-moko-world-maori-tattoo This book on moko was just released, I picked it up in the library and was blown away by the information and high quality photos. It’s got alot of stories about moko and the people who wear it from the early appearance of it through to modern day.
Hope it helps.

http://www.penguin.com.au/products/9780143566854/mau-moko-world-maori-tattoo

]]> By: Kiwi Kath http://www.rudyrucker.com/blog/2006/12/07/new-zealand-part-3-ta-moko/comment-page-1/#comment-30219 Kiwi Kath Sun, 16 Oct 2011 03:29:09 +0000 http://www.rudyrucker.com/wordpress/?p=24#comment-30219 I just love the Moko and Goldie's paintings are simply stunning. This has been a good read, I really like what Brent had to say... I am a pakeha from NZ who would love a moko but as a white female with absolutely no maori ancestry, I respect that I can not have one. As far as I have learned there are three parts to the full moko. The forehead is for your status on the Marae. The cheeks are for your whakapapa and the chin is for what you do. Please note, I could have these in the wrong order as it was quite awhile ago someone shared this information with me. Anyway I am pleased to have stumbled accross your website. Thanks. I just love the Moko and Goldie’s paintings are simply stunning. This has been a good read, I really like what Brent had to say… I am a pakeha from NZ who would love a moko but as a white female with absolutely no maori ancestry, I respect that I can not have one. As far as I have learned there are three parts to the full moko. The forehead is for your status on the Marae. The cheeks are for your whakapapa and the chin is for what you do. Please note, I could have these in the wrong order as it was quite awhile ago someone shared this information with me. Anyway I am pleased to have stumbled accross your website. Thanks.

]]> By: Steven Greatorex http://www.rudyrucker.com/blog/2006/12/07/new-zealand-part-3-ta-moko/comment-page-1/#comment-22347 Steven Greatorex Fri, 23 Jul 2010 00:26:18 +0000 http://www.rudyrucker.com/wordpress/?p=24#comment-22347 Hi Rudy, I really enjoy your writing - you have a fine sense of humour. I'm a European of NZ descent living in Australia and admit to having a fascination with moko which stems from exposure to Goldie's paintings as a child. I was also fortunate to see two elderly women with moko. As I am not tangata whenua (people of the land), I haven't got a moko or in fact, any tattoos which is a minor miracle considering I served in the navy. I recently borrowed this book from the library and thought you might be interested. Here are the bibliographic details: Moko : Maori tattoo / photographs by Hans Neleman ; texts by Tame Wairere Iti, Pita Turei and Nicole MacDonald. Zurich : Edition Stemmle, c1999. Neleman, Hans, 1960- 3908161967 (hbk.) If you conduct a search for Hans Neleman you will locate some of the book's images. They are very powerful, poignant and distinguished portraits of a proud people. Kind regards, Steven Hi Rudy,

I really enjoy your writing – you have a fine sense of humour. I’m a European of NZ descent living in Australia and admit to having a fascination with moko which stems from exposure to Goldie’s paintings as a child. I was also fortunate to see two elderly women with moko. As I am not tangata whenua (people of the land), I haven’t got a moko or in fact, any tattoos which is a minor miracle considering I served in the navy.

I recently borrowed this book from the library and thought you might be interested. Here are the bibliographic details:

Moko : Maori tattoo / photographs by Hans Neleman ; texts by Tame Wairere Iti, Pita Turei and Nicole MacDonald. Zurich : Edition Stemmle, c1999. Neleman, Hans, 1960- 3908161967 (hbk.)

If you conduct a search for Hans Neleman you will locate some of the book’s images.
They are very powerful, poignant and distinguished portraits of a proud people.

Kind regards,
Steven

]]> By: Rudy http://www.rudyrucker.com/blog/2006/12/07/new-zealand-part-3-ta-moko/comment-page-1/#comment-21985 Rudy Tue, 08 Jun 2010 02:20:26 +0000 http://www.rudyrucker.com/wordpress/?p=24#comment-21985 I got an interesting email from the New Zealand artist <a target="blank" href="http://kenhunt.org/" rel="nofollow">Ken Hunt</a> on June 7, 2010. It seems I may have misunderstood the meaning of "All the same to E Pakeha". It may be that "all the same" means something more like, "it makes no difference to". I'll quote Ken's email below. <blockquote>I find this post very interesting mainly because I am of Maori descent. It was our tribe which first introduced the moko with scarification. My great+++ grandfather, a whaler, was captured by the local Maori in the 1830s, and forced to marry the daughter of the chief... however he was not forced to receive Ta Moko, and lived to have many children! Another point of interest is that one of my sources of income is copying Goldie paintings. I only do one or two a year, as it gets tiresome copying other people's work. It all started with Peter Jackson buying a copy of "All the same to E Pakeha" while he was filming Lord of the Rings, and since then I've had to have an unlisted phone number just to keep people at bay. Regarding "All the same to E Pakeha". This title has been subject to some controversy. When I was growing up, this was a figure of speech used as a sort of taunt by Maori against Pakeha... kind of a joke, with a touch of menace (bearing in mind that "pakeha" does not mean European, but is a derogatory term).</blockquote> I got an interesting email from the New Zealand artist Ken Hunt on June 7, 2010. It seems I may have misunderstood the meaning of “All the same to E Pakeha”. It may be that “all the same” means something more like, “it makes no difference to”. I’ll quote Ken’s email below.

I find this post very interesting mainly because I am of Maori descent. It was our tribe which first introduced the moko with scarification. My great+++ grandfather, a whaler, was captured by the local Maori in the 1830s, and forced to marry the daughter of the chief… however he was not forced to receive Ta Moko, and lived to have many children!

Another point of interest is that one of my sources of income is copying Goldie paintings. I only do one or two a year, as it gets tiresome copying other people’s work. It all started with Peter Jackson buying a copy of “All the same to E Pakeha” while he was filming Lord of the Rings, and since then I’ve had to have an unlisted phone number just to keep people at bay.

Regarding “All the same to E Pakeha”. This title has been subject to some controversy. When I was growing up, this was a figure of speech used as a sort of taunt by Maori against Pakeha… kind of a joke, with a touch of menace (bearing in mind that “pakeha” does not mean European, but is a derogatory term).

]]> By: Sunny http://www.rudyrucker.com/blog/2006/12/07/new-zealand-part-3-ta-moko/comment-page-1/#comment-20919 Sunny Mon, 23 Nov 2009 07:10:02 +0000 http://www.rudyrucker.com/wordpress/?p=24#comment-20919 Very nice information Great <a href="http://maoricarvings.blogspot.com/" rel="nofollow">Maori Art</a> thanks for sharing. Very nice information Great Maori Art
thanks for sharing.

]]> By: John Tahana http://www.rudyrucker.com/blog/2006/12/07/new-zealand-part-3-ta-moko/comment-page-1/#comment-19986 John Tahana Fri, 17 Jul 2009 22:42:09 +0000 http://www.rudyrucker.com/wordpress/?p=24#comment-19986 Chris, shame your art form has been lost Chris, shame your art form has been lost

]]> By: chris http://www.rudyrucker.com/blog/2006/12/07/new-zealand-part-3-ta-moko/comment-page-1/#comment-19974 chris Wed, 15 Jul 2009 14:19:21 +0000 http://www.rudyrucker.com/wordpress/?p=24#comment-19974 i beleive our tipuna tell us who is to wear ta moko but us irish wore it long time before maori eh figue dat eh eh im not being racist or anything eh but it has been shown eh heapz of secrets eh i beleive our tipuna tell us who is to wear ta moko but us irish wore it long time before maori eh figue dat eh eh im not being racist or anything eh but it has been shown eh heapz of secrets eh

]]> By: Anonymous http://www.rudyrucker.com/blog/2006/12/07/new-zealand-part-3-ta-moko/comment-page-1/#comment-19842 Anonymous Wed, 17 Jun 2009 22:27:47 +0000 http://www.rudyrucker.com/wordpress/?p=24#comment-19842 kia ora kia ora kia ora kia ora

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